Boy 10: Renewed (Artist) Card

Boy 10, you are also an artist.

This is tough. I am suspicious.

You clicked me–you didn’t engage with the traditional Harry Potter icebreaker. You went with The West Wing. I think maybe that’s how you caught me off-guard ’cause I’m actively trying to avoid artists. It’s not a dealbreaker; it’s just a preference.

I insist that if we are both artists we must know each other. I do some stalking, and we do have a few friends in common, but the connections are pretty peripheral. You say you’ve never (to your knowledge lol) dated or slept with an artist… I drop my number like a true traitor to my kind.

I ask you to send me some of your work… am I the only person who can’t imagine getting involved with someone whose work I don’t respect? I like your work. I tell you so! Several Passover/Easter and musical jokes later… we settle on a date and time.

I’m a big fan of CAPS LOCK in my texting persona. I think it pretty accurately reflects my general exuberance. You are also only the second person I’ve encountered digitally who uses what I call the Emily Dickinson Capital Letters for Emphasis–not all the time, but strategically and well. It’s sexy.

And, here, Dear Readers, is The Sexiest Part: because we are both artists, we were able to meet up during the day! We decided on a stroll in Washington Square Park ’cause it turns out neither of us drinks coffee.

It gets better.

You say that you have to return your library books at some point. Would I be interested in accompanying you? Boy, would I. We stroll to the library and talk about what you just read. Turns out we went to a branch that is closed for renovation. You realize you knew that and lead us to another branch. A man who knows not one, but two, local library branches. Be Still, My Heart.

I ask you about your work. It’s shorter form. You ask me about mine. It’s longer form. We talk about identity politics in art… is an artist meant to work with what they know? With their own experiences? Or is there something to the outsider looking in? Providing a new perspective with aesthetic distance? In fact, you are very interested in writing about people you virulently disagree with. While processing your own privilege.

I tell you about some young aspiring artists I know who ask me for coffee and advice. I am reluctant to provide it (imposter syndrome), but I wish someone had provided me with guidance of any kind… so I do. And one young actor asked me once: “Isn’t it easier for female actors because they have their beauty?” And I took him to town. No, no, it’s not. In fact, the attention paid to their beauty (which is inherently fleeting) is a huge and horrible bottleneck in the industry that prioritizes and fetishizes women’s bone structures instead of their abilities.

You agree.

But you also provide a caveat; you say, “Maybe he was trying to compliment you on your aesthetics in a roundabout way.” Boy 10, are you complimenting my aesthetics in a roundabout way?

You walk me all the way to work.

I want to thank you:

  1. You assured me that you’re not one to hold grudges, so should we ever encounter each other artistically, it’s ok. This is sweet, transparent and kind.
  2. You’re a real creator. You inhale and surround yourself with literature and inspiration. You exhale and make work that you’re proud of and that reflects the questions you have about the world.
  3. I renewed my library card while you returned your books. So productive.
  4. You can meet during the day. Not a small deal. You, like me, do not have to stay on Muggle 9-5 hours. We are the magic makers with dumb/awesome schedules. Oh, that reminds me… Ode by Arthur O’Shaughnessy… Bolding mine. Not the author’s.

“We are the music makers,
    And we are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers,
    And sitting by desolate streams; —
World-losers and world-forsakers,
    On whom the pale moon gleams:
Yet we are the movers and shakers
   Of the world for ever, it seems.”

Boy 10, goddamnit. I would totally go on another date with you. Yeesh. Artists, amirite?

UPDATE: You text me that afternoon to let me know that “despite or maybe because of” our artistic professions, you had a great time. We should meet again. Second date scheduled.

Boy 9: Troll

You’re an economist, and you win most texting.

Thousands sent, EASILY, thousands,before we actually met. Probably because I was bored on a plane, and you were bored… ’cause that’s your default state? But no spoilers.

It’s not surprising that I thought you might be a troll.

The theme of our texting was basically… disappointment. How disappointing it’s going to be to actually meet in person. It’s funny in a morbid kind of way. Endearing nihilism… turns out you’ve been online dating for five years. I am easily fascinated… who is this internet veteran? An excellent date or a horrifying dud?

Lots of meta-Hinging about horrible dates, Jewish jokes, innuendo… Banter: high. Substance: low. I guess I did figure out that you’re bilingual like me. That’s sexy.

We settle on a date for when I return from work that’s post-Passover Seder.

Even after logistics have been confirmed, the texting continues. Selfies… sarcasm. What’s the best way to disappoint each other, hmmm?

Somewhere in this conversation, I drop the fact that I have a new dealbreaker. I will not get emotionally/sexually involved (in any capacity) with a guy who hasn’t told someone that they love them romantically. Everything else I can wrap my head around, but at this point, if you haven’t loved someone and differentiated that personal maze for yourself, then I’m not going to provide you with a training ground. And I want you to recognize your own limitations and preferences within our dynamic/relationship and whether it’s casual or serious or anything in between.

You assure me that you were with someone for a year…***

After many pithy little comments about how it might be better not to meet and preserve what we have projected on each other, we finally meet. At one of my favorite bars in NYC: ArtBar.

Boy 9, you basically look like your picture. Not quite. B+.

I ask you questions about your job. You answer them. You seem to care about it. You work on economic proposals for an environmentally-conscious firm. But you work remotely which means you work and live alone… somehow jokes about oral sex get made and that you give it poorly. Or not at all. Yellow flag.

You ask me about my work. I answer a bit. We get derailed with peripheral and tangential jokes…

Interesting thing about you, Boy 9. The excessive texting did actually reflect you well. Banter: high. Substance: low. In person and via text.

But let’s get back to disappointment. We had discussed many things, including but not limited to the fact that you tend to kiss on first dates, and 8/8 of boys texted me after the first date but did not kiss me! So, I was expecting you to kiss me if I didn’t “disappoint.” Am I crazy?

You don’t kiss me! But you do walk me all the way across town instead of taking the subway.

I get on the bus. Text me, I say.

I want to thank you:

  1. You’re weird. I haven’t really met any truly strange birds. I like that you put yourself out there.
  2. You’re a fascinating manifestation of online dating culture–you’ve been on the apps for years–and the way it reflects the deep loneliness many professions can cultivate. Troll isn’t quite right, but it isn’t quite wrong, either. You work alone (computers make the work remote), you live alone (one bedrooms mean you’re more successful), and you date alone (apps mean a revolving digital door of strangers). I see your solitude, and I am grateful for my community.

Boy 9, I could sleep with you but only out of morbid curiosity and that unhealthy teaspoon of self-destruction that every hopeless neurotic contains.

UPDATE: You text instantly. It’s weird. The texting continues… I accuse you of disliking me because you didn’t kiss me. You accuse me of recoiling when you made physical contact with me. I don’t remember you touching me… good sign, right?

Somehow a second date is scheduled. Wondering if it was disappointing? You have no idea. I guess I’m a glutton for murky disappointment. I’ll follow a story all the way to Brooklyn. More on that later.

***Turns out to not be accurate, later, unsurprisingly…

Boy 8: Oral Care

You kind of checked me out the moment I walked in? I feel like you should do that when I go to the bathroom halfway through the date.

You started a toothbrush company, and you like podcasts. And rock climbing.

Not feeling it.

You sort of said some presumptuous things about my writing. Then I went to the bathroom, and you apologized when I came back? And assured me my writing was probably great?

It’s nobody’s fault. Sometimes you’re just not feeling it.

Boy 8, thank you:

  1. I didn’t know there was a cool hotel bar thing in Chelsea, and now I do.
  2. It turns out that a Quip is not actually an electric toothbrush. It’s a manual toothbrush that vibrates. So you should actually stick to Sonicare and not fall for those sleek little ads on the subway. I’m glad I know this now.

Boy 8, I wish you the best of luck.

UPDATE: You texted me the next morning. I didn’t text back for a day.

Boy 7: Quantum entanglement, black holes and other metonyms.

So, sometimes Hinge tries to play Yenta.

It sends a profile to me with a little note, insisting that we’re compatible.

I’m open-minded. I’ll play.

Boy 7, you are a theoretical physicist. You went to MIT. You play musical instruments. Hmm.

I start small. I message you about ukuleles.

My ukulele has been staring at me forlornly for months. I have been amateur-four-chord-playing guitar for a few years now, but once I hit the bar chords, my very small hands were offended. They can barely get around the neck of the guitar! Now I have to play bar chords!? So I Amazon-ed a ukulele. It’s smaller, I thought. After it arrived, I picked it up and was appalled that I could not play it. I can see the Onion headline now: WHITE GIRL WITH BANGS GENUINELY SURPRISED AND UPSET WHEN SHE DOESN’T INSTANTLY KNOW HOW TO PLAY UKULELE.

You explain that the ukulele is not that far from a guitar. Then you ask about Harry Potter. Easy nerd icebreaker strikes again. I’m tired of making “I do actual magic” jokes, I deflect and say it’s just meant to communicate what a dork I was and continue to be. And you say you can give me a run for my money there.

And you do.

(Please note: number not yet dropped.)

I ask you about artificial intelligence. You answer and distinguish it from general intelligence, settling on it’s a “quantitative way of studying what intelligence is” but that your background in theoretical physics may be warping your perspective. Then you make a meta-joke about one of my photos. At this point, I must meet you. I don’t care if we never speak again. Good god, I want nothing more than to sit down with a young theoretical physicist and to talk about what intelligence is.

I’ve been fascinated by this question forever. And I sort of write a small paragraph to you about this, starting with the disclaimer that, yes, I have a science degree but that my background is not nearly as rigorous as yours.

Basically, I have never believed in “talent” or in “intelligence.” I think they’re constructs. Meant to perpetuate semi-libertarian myths that are just misguided and misleading applications of the fundamental attribution error. Basically, talent and intelligence are just unconscious accumulations of environmental advantages and small, nurtured predispositions that we confuse with nature. Moreover, it doesn’t behoove me to believe in inherent talent or intelligence, does it? That would only encourage me to work less, wouldn’t it? And to rest on my genetic magical laurels?

I keep coming back to Miles Davis: “Man, sometimes it takes a long time to sound like yourself.” Yes. Because we’re born blank and strange and become something in opposition to and in love with everything and everyone around us. And then, yeah, it takes a fucking long time to figure out what stuck and how to sound like yourself. And usually, at the end of that shitty battle, people see you. And they might think you’re talented or intelligent. But mostly, they’re just responding to the fact that you’ve finally managed to be made by all the things that unmade you.

So, it doesn’t make any sense for me to believe in talent or intelligence. Same argument Voltaire made about believing in God, actually. It just makes sense for me to keep working.

Not that I always make sense.

Speaking of. I’ve been told over and over again, by my family, my significant others, my community, that I am wrong. About all of this. So, I’ve started to accept caveats to my worldview, e.g. the relevance of physical advantages. Certain voices sound a certain way and lend themselves to certain circumstances. And then the questions of brains and neurons come in… maybe there’s a question of processing speed. Do some process faster than others? As a fast talker, I wonder about this… This is all to say, the only arguments I’m willing to entertain on the questions of “talent” and “intelligence” and their provenances would be a scientific ones ’cause that’s how we roll over here.

I mention that one of my pieces of art uses a famous thought experiment as an elaborate metaphor for love and romance.

Obviously, I have dropped my number at this point.

You text right away. Turns out the quantum thought experiment in my play was based in large part on a principle that you studied. You also ask me to drinks. ALSO TURNS OUT that that that very same principle (entanglement) was presented by one of my actors during the research phases of my piece. I send you a picture lest you think I was pandering.

We jump into logistics. You’re busy. I’m busy. GOOD. I now know I can’t do things with people who aren’t busy. I don’t know what the rest of the Hinge world is like, but I’m noticing that lots of people just seem to be “around.” I am not around.

We find an AM date time. I’m flying out that same night after rehearsal, so I say I’ll have a carry-on bag, and you are flying out the next day, but you’ll have a guitar because you’re on your way to practice. Birds of a feather.

Normally I thank Boys for looking like their photo. But this is an extra special “what are the odds” moment. Which given our flights of physics fancy–well, let’s be honest, flights for me, but just every day patter for you–the odds are high, I guess.

I get on the subway. Plan is to check my makeup and fix my hair.

I look around for a place to sit.

Doors haven’t even closed yet…

I see a guitar case.

I look up.

You’re looking at me.

We both go: HEY.

So we ride the subway up. We talk about my plays and your defense during which you wore a cloak and used a dagger instead of a laser pointer. When I describe my play, you ask me if I’ve read Arcadia by Tom Stoppard which you quoted in your defense… I mean. Hello, gorgeous. And, yes, I’ve read it, and the pope is Catholic. In my explanation, I start to give spoilers from my play, and you ask me not to. You’d like to read it. You are the second boy to immediately engage with my work right off the bat. (For those of you keeping score, Boy 2 attended one of my pieces on the first date. I guess Boy 4 engaged in a healthy Google search. Boy 5 googled afterwards.)

I ask you about black holes and your research… we get into what you call modeling and I call metonyms (a literary term you were not familiar with). I also meta-date and say how lovely it is to have so much content between us and ask do other women engage with you on this? You say, no, they usually say “I was so bad at physics” but that you just use it as an opportunity to ask them questions and try to learn something.

Learning, people. Learning people. Learning learning people.

By now we’re on to gravity in other universes. And criticizing academic papers (or quite frankly, any writing at all) that lacks a sense of humor. I’m curious to talk about quantum stuff in my play, but it would be a spoiler, so we just talk about it abstractly. Besides, “reality is quantum” or so you say. We spend a while on the Sleeping Beauty problem, and we realize you’re late. I walk you. At the door, you say you’d like to see me again… if I want to see you again, you add awkwardly.

Boy 6, I want to thank you:

  1. We never got around to the question of intelligence, but whatever you are, you seem to be a brilliant, kind creature obsessed with truth. And, ironically, when I asked how you got into physics, you said you just never outgrew the questions kids ask.
  2. The passion with which you text matches the passion with which you talk. I don’t mean the quips and the flirting. I mean the actual content. There’s lots of sweet-nothing dialogue out there via text. I sometimes feel uncomfortable in monologue though… you can monologue and dialogue.
  3. I’m feeling a little bit sheepish asking you questions about physics. Unlike yours, my work is meant to be at least somewhat accessible by definition; you never made me feel dumb.

Boy 6, I would go on another date with you. I know this is already an excellent meeting of minds. Let’s see what else meets. To quote your defense and Stoppard… “it’s the wanting to know that makes us matter.”

UPDATE: That night you text, hoping my flight was all right and would I text and send you my play if I’d still like to hang out.

I explain that sending my play is more vulnerability than nudity, but sure. And, of course, we’re hanging out! We hadn’t even discussed the nature of intelligence yet.

Boy 6: Block Ice and Books

Boy 6, you were one of the first people I clicked.

Your pictures are all sort of weird, but you said that your personal brand was a young Larry David… and… well, what can I say.

You’re in tech. Hot.

You were a click whim.

You initiated a conversation. Harry Potter banter. Aforementioned easy nerd icebreaker. Lots of jokes about crappy magical means of transportation that are still more effective than the L train. Then we move into other media… some criticism of a theater show you saw and then Silicon Valley ’cause you’re in tech. I ask if it’s realistic. You say it’s a documentary. I complain about the horrid representation of women. You drop a paragraph charting the lack of women throughout Mike Judge’s work, and I drop my number. Remember, this was still a while back. I was dropping my number like a hot potato.

I get a text from you asking if I’d like to get a drink and discuss the lack of women in TV. I say I’d love nothing more.

Yes, goddamnit, yes. We finished the banter on the app, and we move straight to setting up a meeting. Very impressive, Boy 6.

What’s interesting about this is that our texting wasn’t super sparky. There has been a general trend of banter and joking via text that is almost interchangeable at this point between Boys 1, 3 and 5 (with whom I am not actively scheduling second dates).

Our texting is more practical and simple, and once we moved off Hinge, the only texting was to coordinate logistics. Boy 4 is an anomaly (because I kind of already want to embroider his name on my pillow)… we hit on instantly engaging topics via text, and we met almost right away.

Day of our date you text to check in. We change locations because I’m coming from somewhere else now to a bar you love in the West Village. It’s an unmarked speakeasy style bar with those square hunks of ice in the drinks that are so awesome. And an hour into our date a jazz band appears.

You’re there already with drink in hand.

You look like your picture. You are your height. You’ve got kind of hipster glasses. You have broad shoulders. I am intrigued.

I go get my drink. Thank you for not insisting on paying for mine. Yours is some kind of thing with an orange peel in it, and I get a vodka seltzer with a beautiful floating ice cube and a funny metal straw. I love this place, Boy 6, and I actually secretly kind of hate bars.

The conversation is all right at first. Questions about profession… we sort of have to get into some of this more expository stuff because we didn’t text much. You tell me about tech and the lack of women. We get into people who write about science and don’t know shit about science. I tell you my computer science story.

Basically, I took one computer science class, and I ended up having to drop it, but I was completing an assignment that I kept messing up. And I kept thinking, “ugh it’s the computer.” And then I realized… girl, it’s literally NEVER the computer. The computer is simply a reflection of what you put into it. It’s always you. It’s never the computer. You liked this.

The band arrives and we move to bar stools. You are facing me with your legs open. I have learned from a male friend that this means you are body-language-ing me. Ah, ok. So if you open your knees towards me and/or put your feet on my stool, that’s a sign… maybe. This is confusing.

And then we start talking books. You are well read. You are reading one chapter of War and Peace every day. You mock me for liking Jonathan Franzen ’cause you couldn’t get past the bit in The Corrections when the pasty intellectual white professor sleeps with his student. I see you, Boy 6. We talk podcasts. You recommend one called “Deli Boys,” and I explain that I have trouble at Jewish delis because I don’t like anything smoked. You’re horrified. It’s cute. What can I say? Personalities get me all hot and bothered. We talk brisket which you claim as a Southern thing and I claim as a Jewish thing. We walk to the subway, and you miss your stop while you show me all the podcasts on your phone. I explain that I detest soundscapes behind human voices.

You say this was fun. Let’s do it again.

Boy 6, you left me wanting more. I am curious. I would go on another date with you. I would definitely sleep with you.

I want to thank you:

  1. So far, you and Boy 2 are minimal texters pre-first-date. That is downright awesome.
  2. You read. You read so much. You and Boy 4. There’s this thing that happens, I guess, when you are both readers where suddenly, even though you’re strangers, you know the same people. We can gossip about these people. Love them, hate them, lust after them, dismiss them, etc. And then I can tell you to meet other people… Pierre Bezukhov and Neil Klugman and Pip Tyler. And because it’s not as literal as television, which I also love, we can wade through our interpretations and know each other a little.
  3. You seem particular but peaceful.
  4. You have an adorable dog.

UPDATE: You text me the next day. Asking me how I’m doing, etc. We’re texting now about Beowulf and Nathan For You. No date set up, but horizon.

Girl 0: Payment Plans

So.

Let’s talk about who pays.

I have now been on 6 first dates and 1 second date with many more potential ones coming up.

Why does the guy pay?

Why.

WHY.

Will someone please explain this to me?

At first, I didn’t mind. I even somehow subconsciously expected it. Like, sure, yeah, this is a thing, the guy will offer. I always reach for my wallet; I always say I want to “contribute to the cause;” and then inevitably, I give in.

After these aforementioned 7 dates though, I’m starting to have a bit of a bitter financial aftertaste… so, like, if you text me, and I want to text you back. Awesome. Then next time, I’ll pay! But let’s say, I don’t like you. I sat through the date. But for some reason, you liked me… so then you text me. I’m not gonna lie. I’m suddenly in this slightly uncomfortable position because I feel conscious of the fact that you paid.

I think about it… if I had to pay for the date, I would… date less. I would resent people who didn’t text me back if I felt like there was chemistry. I would wonder why I was supposed to pay.

So why should dating be twice as expensive for men as for women? Yes, men are getting paid more (that joke has been made now on 2/7 dates), but this doesn’t feel like the way to get our money back as women? In fact, it feels like maybe it perpetuates a worldview in which men are, ahem, meant to financially provide for women who are meant to carry the men’s sperm to completion and wipe down counters? No?

So, here’s my proposal:

Date 1: We split. NO MATTER WHAT. The only reason we wouldn’t split is… nope. There’s no reason. WE SPLIT BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW YET IF WE LIKE EACH OTHER.

Date 2: You can offer to pay if you adore me.

Date 3+: Depends on 10,000 different things, but like… take turns, maybe? Unless you’re making a big gesture.

This is all I have to say on the matter, and for all dates moving forward, I will be insisting on splitting. Deal with it.

Boy 5: A Little Linguistics

Boy 5. 

You’re clever.

You clicked on me, and your profile was funny but vague… so I asked if you were an artist right off the bat. I’ve heard that it’s easier to be a female artist than a male artist on these apps because women are seeking financially stability. This is nauseating. On so many levels. But, anyway, you answer right away that you’re not! You’re basically a corporate writer at this point.

We make jokes about Harry Potter which I feature briefly in my profile. I’m not obsessed with the books, but it’s an easy way to get nerd conversation going. You ask if I can do real magic (…you are not the first boy to ask me this), and I say yes. You call me a magician, and I say that’s not politically correct. I’m a wizard. Then we transition to X-rays because you feature one in your pictures, and I tell you about their use in one my plays. I drop my number–this was still early texting days.

You follow up immediately. We discuss neighborhoods–I’ve slowly been moving south, and you live in Brooklyn. All sorts of heading further and further down and around the world jokes ensue, culminating in my reaching escape velocity and being launched out of Earth’s orbit as a manic pixie space girl. We settle on drinks at an intermediate location in about a week or so.

Also, you like to use the blonde surfing boy emoji. I find this funny. You are neither blonde nor do I think you have ever surfed. You are a quirky, slightly corporate creature.

On the day of the date, you text to confirm. We make many ghosting and disguise “I’ll be the one in the trenchcoat” jokes. You ask me to bring a costume because I’m “in the theatre.” I respond that obviously what it means to be in the theatre is to have a trunk of random costumes and funny hats. Do you happen to need a rubber chicken? You respond about my spelling of the word “theater,” and explain that I’m in “theatre” and not “theater.” I am excited to have this conversation face to face.

We meet.

Boy 5, you kind of look like your photo. B+.

But you are an immediately present and talented conversationalist. You insist on paying for my drink. I explain you do not need to. It turns out you chose a wine bar because I said I drink wine. Neither of us really drink wine, but I like this spot. It is not too loud or crowded.

We talk about your brother who has always been sort of a loser and now works for Google animating their doodle. So, basically, now he’s the cool one forever. We talk about your job and the kind of writing you love. We talk about my job and the kind of writing I love.

Ah, yes, we meant to return to this, and we do: I demand your explanation. You claim that “theatre” refers to the art of and locations in which live theater whereas “theater” refers to a place where non-live art, aka movies, etc., is screened. I find this a fascinating distinction. The one I hear within my community is that “theater” refers to a geographical location whereas “theatre” refers to the concept. I personally think this is all nonsense because “theatre” is simply the British spelling and “theater” is the American spelling, and there are no rules anywhere actually about it, so anyone who says “theatre” is an anglophilic emperor with no clothes on. You argue that language is constantly involving… do I say cuticle or cuticle? GIF or GIF? Language is constantly evolving. I concede.

You tell me a story about how someone at work described a client as “reasonably positive” and then described you as “unreasonably positive” and you agreed with that assessment. I tell my funny story about Boy 1. Then we’re on the topic of people who text funny but don’t manifest funny… suddenly we’re on what is objectively funny and what isn’t? You think things can be objectively funny. I disagree. Nothing is objectively funny except for the consonant “k.” A “bucket” is infinitely funnier than a “pail.” You make a linguistic argument (I am dazzled, not gonna lie) in which you say that “bucket” is also funny though because of the abruptness of the word and its Scandinavian roots. You explain that English has Scandinavian threads that are perceived vulgar (“fuck” and “cunt”) and French threads that are perceived as high end (“fornicate” and “vagina”). I am impressed. I counter that linguistics are all well and good but totally dependent on your native language, aren’t they? My immigrant parents don’t care about the Scandinavian roots. I propose the following…

  1. There are funny things. What makes things funny is that they are at once surprising and familiar. The comedian surprises you with something you always knew.
  2. And there are funny people. We genetically find some things funny. I illustrate this. Sometimes when I deliver a line, I look down and then up and widen my eyes, and people laugh. I do not know why, I explain. I think it’s ’cause we biologically think big eyes are funny. I display my big eyes trick, and you are genuinely upset that it makes you laugh even though you knew it was coming.

I am a slow drinker. You get a second drink. We seem to be closing down the bar. We are back to meta-dating, and I’m discussing my internet presence after you tell me about your first and last experience on stage as an audience member that was called up. We head out. Awkward end of first date hug.

Boy 5, you are cool. You are smart. I do actually think you should write that film that your brother wants to animate. I want to see it. I want to thank you.

  1. You don’t text too much.
  2. You bought the drink without being a dick.
  3. You met me late to accommodate my schedule.
  4. You’re objectively intelligent.

That being said… this was an interesting case of sparky intellectual chemistry and very little physical chemistry? I’m not sure. I was genuinely dazzled by some of your conversational points, but I didn’t want to bite your lip at the same time.

Boy 5, I think I want to be friends with you?

UPDATE: You texted me the next morning asking me where you should commence googling me. I obviously suggested the horror flick in which I play a hipster date from hell.

Boy 4: Well, Weller, Wellest Date

Oh god.

Boy 4.

I really like you.

It’s a problem.

So, you clicked on me first, Boy 4, and you chose one of the funny pictures on my profile rather than one of my attempts at seduction. I accepted your click, and so we were matched. Then you asked me how my week was. This all happened almost immediately which is always serendipitous. If someone clicks you, and you click them right back, and you both just happen to be fucking around on Hinge, it’s great because the little I-like-your-picture-and-you-like-mine pheromones are still tingling!

You just had a birthday/adult bar mitzvah which is super adorable. We discussed bar/bat mitzvah themes. Mine was fairy-tale. As a feminist, all I can say in hindsight is… kill me now. Yours was film-themed. We discussed the troubling bits of The Little Mermaid… good god, woman… speaking of Hinge… how on earth (or on the sea) can you give up your voice if you hope to seduce a man? Bad deal. I had mentioned my show, and then I asked you about your job as a public defender for a company that I had actually recently learned about from Boy 2, incidentally. Dating is learning, people. Also, dating is learning people. Also, punctuation is important. But I digress. Then you tease me for knowing the specifics of your job because that would have required a google search! Which I hadn’t (yet)! I protest, “I haven’t googled you… yet,” and you answer in the best way that you’ve already googled me and make specific mention of a video you found that made you laugh. Hot tip for any guy who wants to literally do anything with me: say I’m funny. That works even better than saying I’m pretty. Infinitely better, actually. So I promptly googled you, and you have a video up. This is rare. Most non-artists don’t have video up. I explain to you how wonderful this is, and you explain to me that the other guy in the video talked shit about #metoo, so now I really like you even more. You then compliment my work in detail, mentioning Mike Birbiglia and Philip Roth. We’re off to the races, Boy 4. Now we’re discussing Goodbye, Columbus, and you’re recommending American Pastoral.

So even though Boy 2 had alerted me about not dropping my number so easily, I can’t help myself. I say “hey ########### if that’s easier than this delightful app.” And you text immediately! Saying that you were about to do the same… I mean. Swoon.

The texting continues briefly, and then you’re off to bed ’cause you’re a “square” who has to be up early. However, the next day, you’re sick! So, you’re just texting me things from your sickbed. Asking about the neighborhood I live in. Talking to me about the movies you like. One more day goes by, and you cut right to the chase… “So when are we gonna meet up?”

The days in the future that I offer don’t work, and after some back and forth, you say, could I convince you to get a coffee like now… basically? Because you’re sick and have AM availability you don’t normally have. And for some reason I say yes, put on a denim skirt and some earrings and head to your neighborhood deli for a morning coffee date before you go back to napping, and I go to a doctor’s appointment.

I’m early because of magical train timing, and you rap on the glass when you get there ’cause you recognize me. Good.

Boy 4, you are cuter than your pictures. I am immediately attracted.

Maybe you are nervous or sick, I’m not sure. But when you first speak, your voice is higher than in the video I saw, but then it settles.

You get a coffee; I already have mine. You ask about the book I’m reading… Another Country. You talk compellingly about your job. We discuss the intricacies and complexities. You tell me about annoying clients. It’s funny. You ask me about what I do, and you engage with it. We get into questions of Jewish day schools (how did we both end up at them? Despite not being super-Jews) and the SAT scandal (are some kids inherently smarter? I don’t believe so) and also documentaries like Going Clear (objectivity and rigor vs. a flashy expose) and even come round to Bojack Horseman (which we both agree is one of the best written shows of all time). Honestly, I’m having trouble remembering the exact subjects of conversation because it just, you know, flowed. You also sort of put your feet on my chair. You are tall, so maybe that’s why, and you never touch me, but your body language is quite… directional? Not in a player way, but in a sort of geeky, tall human way. Although sometimes those geeks are playing the biggest games SO WHAT DO I KNOW. I had to check the clock to make sure I wasn’t late to the doctor, and I was already late. You walked me to the subway, wished me luck, and said we should get together when we’re “weller.” Weller? You go, yeah, I think I said weller? Anyway! Awkward first date hug.

Boy 4, I want to thank you.

  1. Well, I guess that’s how it feels to be instantly attracted to someone. Excellent conversation, and I already really want to kiss you.
  2. Way to care. WAY TO CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU DO. I fucking love it.
  3. I have nothing to say. I want to see you again. I am wondering if you will text me tomorrow.
  4. Did I mention I like you? Thanks for being likeable.

Boy 4, I would go on another date with you. I would see a morning movie with you and sneak in snacks. I would build an IKEA dresser with you. I want to know the inside of your mouth.

UPDATE: You text me. I die.

Boy 4, you currently hold the record for quickest text message turnaround. You text me that afternoon (so about four hours later), following up about my doctor’s appointment. We sort of spend the rest of the day intermittently texting about what you’re doing sick… and then when I mentioned that I signed up for Hinge recently, you ask me about my relationship history basically. I sort of give you shit for texting a question that should be asked in person; you apologize that you didn’t mean to pry. So, I give a brief answer, and you give a long answer, sharing that you’ve been a serial monogamist for a long time. #metoo, Boy 4, #metoo. We commiserate. I mention that I didn’t want to keep dating in my community either, and you say, oh, so it’s not a con that I’m not a thespian? And I say on the contrary! Active plus! It’s sexy! I ask the reciprocal question, and you say my being an artist is a turn-on.

And then you say you’ve never dated an artist and that your stereotype is that they’re sexually liberated. True or false?

Now I’m walking into a show when you text this, so I don’t see it. In the lull, you follow up with an apology if that sounded pervy.

Hmmmm… how do I answer this question, Boy 4? (<— I literally said that as the preamble to my response). I don’t think you’re pervy though suddenly, maybe I’m feeling a touch fetishized? Although I did use the word “sexy,” so I suppose I’m the one who opened us up to more graphic conversation? So, I use humor. I explain that I have no point of comparison to lawyer sex (de jure or de facto, haha) and that artists span the spectrum… you agree and say so do lawyers (and that you are also sexually liberated). So I counter and say I think really passionate and creative people are the best lays, regardless of profession. You also asked me how the show I saw was. So, we’re not solely having a veiled styles of sex conversation. But mostly we’re having a veiled styles of sex conversations. You agree with my assessment of lays and claim that actors are just more “expressive.”

And then you text:

Maybe we’ll both have the opportunity to find out the public defenders vs actor question one day.

(followed by that dorky emoji who’s smiling like a little ass with the black boxy glasses on)

I basically can’t breathe at this point.

So I text…

I’m doing my show soon, but damn who’s being expressive now?

Not so square.

You haha, make an innocent Jewish boy joke, and wish me luck with the show. I’m invested, Boy 4, so of course I’m over-analyzing now…. So, I’m confused by the sudden foray into past relationships and sex… is this meant to indicate short- or long-term interest? Readers, feel free to weigh in.

Boy 4, you get a second round of gratitude because this all happened so fast.

  1. Thank you for leaning in and scheduling quickly! Efficient. I like it.
  2. Now all the text message banter feels so earned. Thank you for earning it by meeting up because now I can neurose and dissect your text messages in the typical infatuated fashion.

Boy 3: The Casual Sparrow

All right.

Boy 3.

I was surprised that you matched to me, Boy 3. You are outside of the type that I typically attract. Slightly bro-ier. Into music. Attorney.

So, I’ve been on two dates at this point, Boy 3… which is still probably fewer dates than you’ve been on ’cause apparently everybody has been on Hinge for years, but I’m feeling seasoned AF.

You and I started texting last week, Boy 3. Actually, you asked me what my plays were about, and I didn’t respond for a day, and you kind of made an edgy quip about it. Something about “keeping your public on their toes” while they wait. I appreciate your honesty. This digital cybersociety is weird, and transparency is awesome. I apologized, told you a little bit about my art, and then I dropped my number. This was a week and a half ago or so, remember? ‘Cause I thought that was normal.

Eek. Now I’m wondering if my dropping my number is making guys think I’m wild? But you know what… maybe I am? Anyway. Since Date 1 with Boy 2 (when in our meta-Hinge conversation he revealed that asking for the girl’s number is a thing) I have given my number to one more guy. Ironically, when I did, he texted immediately and said that he was about to give me his. Haven’t heard from him actually in a hot second, so we’ll see. BUT I DIGRESS.

Boy 3, when you and I moved to text, I gave you shit about vinyl ’cause you were sitting in a pile of records in one of your pictures. I stand by my argument… what the fuck is vinyl? Like, really. If you actually love music, why don’t you listen to it with the best technology available? Like if you want to get somewhere, would you take a horse-drawn carriage instead of a car? You countered that it’s the journey and not the destination and also that vinyl has some uncompressed qualities to it. Ultimately, we compromised, and you asked me to drinks. I explained I was busy for a few days and also sort of sick, so we arranged to meet on a future day, if, as you pithily pointed, neither of us ghosts. To which I responded, plenty of time to ghost! We were sort of in a slightly reckless tit-for-tat DGAF text chain. I liked it.

You checked in once or twice over the course of the next four days. Nothing crazy.

The day of the date you checked in with me about meeting up still. Asked me about my weekend, and I asked you about yours. You made a joke about a music festival at which the audience was too dorky. Like they listened to NPR. I immediately bristled. And I let you know. I’m a dork. I’m listening to NPR right now. You said you did, too. Hmm. Remember when I noted that you were slightly outside my type? You suggested a tapas/wine bar. Ok. Ok. Oy.

During the day there are quips about ghosting. I describe my outfit in case I don’t look like my picture. You respond, “you’re not blonde?” Then you arrive.

Boy 3, you do look like your picture. Thank you.

We talk. I ask about your job. Now. This is a thing I do. I ask about what people do all damn day because… it’s what people do all damn day? You sort of indicate that, eh, it’s a trap, you hate it, and that there’s no need to go down this conversational route. You order a beer; I order sweet, cheap white wine. You say I seem more like a red person. I explain that I am actually neither. I am a sugar person hence the sweet wine. We drink. We struggle a little at the beginning conversationally, jumping away from profession to family background stuff, so we make jokes about the woman sitting next to us who is giggling and sort of crazy. We finally sort of hit our stride with music and vinyl ’cause when I ask you your favorite musicians, you say what genre? Yes. Get specific. That’s fantastic. So we get into old music vs. new music. Turns out you like Jenny Lewis, and I’ve seen Rilo Kiley in concert twice and know the entire album More Adventurous by heart. Now we’re really sort of talking.

I finish my wine, and you pay for it. I offer multiple times to contribute to the cause. You make a joke, “Well, men are getting paid more. Let me.” You pay. So, Boys, is it that you think you have to pay? Are you aware that we can split? Maybe you are, and I’m just new to this. Or is it that paying is meant to socioeconomically indicate that you like me? I’m still not sure. And then you said let’s GTFO and go somewhere else?

Location #2. I guess this date is the most stereotypical, Boy 3. Drinks at Location #1 and then another drink at Location #2. Somehow at Location #2, as tends to happen I imagine, the conversation suddenly turns to meta-Hinging and to major exes ’cause it turns out you have one and I have one. Which you point out is actually more like 3rd date material. After a mutual commiseration about toxic codependent relationships, you ask for the subject to be changed, and you tell me about your new tattoo. A sparrow. I almost say, “There is a special providence in the fall of a sparrow,” but I’m not sure if Hamlet is how you roll. You tell me though that apparently they are an invasive species not native to America. That’s cool.

You finish your beer; you walk me home. You want to hear me talk more about the writing process. I think you kissed me on the cheek when I hugged you goodbye, but I am not sure.

Damn, guys, how do you depart from someone on the first date? I don’t know why people don’t like shaking hands. I love it. It’s intimate but acknowledges the inherent distance. I think I’m a shake-hands or kiss-me kind of person? Like the hugs are strange.

So, Boy 3. I want to thank you.

  1. You took me on a conventional date that somehow I hadn’t had yet. Or rather “conventional.” This is good. I need to learn.
  2. Conversation wasn’t that easy between us, but you were good at asking questions and/or simply changing the subject when you wanted to.
  3. At one point you said you didn’t think you were particularly funny. You’re not particularly funny, but you’re transparent and authentic. I talked about how annoying it is when guys send too many texts pre-actual-meeting but that I understood this was because many women online were just digital unresponsive stones. You countered that you didn’t think this was an online dating thing but that that was a New York City thing. You might be right. People here just don’t respond a lot of the time… or they disappear. And that you don’t have that many friends yet ’cause you’re a recent transplant, and it’s crazy how many times you have to poke someone just to hang out with them. I like that. I like that you’re honest and looking for company.
  4. You live in my neighborhood. Like one block away. Not gonna lie. Compelling…
  5. Ugh it’s so good. Thank you for reminding me. “Not a whit, we defy augury. There is a special providence in the fall of a sparrow. If it be now, ’tis not to come; if it be not to come, it will be now; if it be not now, yet it will come – the readiness is all.” And oddly relevant to love and dating, too, isn’t it?

Boy 3, I don’t know if I would go on another date with you, but I would sleep with you.

UPDATE: I texted you the Hamlet quote for “conversation starters with chicks and your new tattoo.” I felt like that was a nice way of acknowledging the evening without foisting myself. You texted back right away and want to know what my week is like. Hmmm.

Boy 2: The Sweet Walker

Boy 2, I almost didn’t meet you because I was reeling from the aggressively mediocre disappointment of Boy 1. I’m glad I met you though, Boy 2. You’re a really sweet guy.

I actually hearted a picture of you running, so you’re one of the few boys in this machine that I reached out to first in my big initial heart/x-escapade. We proceeded to sort of message on the app about running… half marathons, marathons, training etc. And then about what we both do. And then I dropped my number in. I just send the following message: “btw ########## if that’s easier”

Apparently, I have now learned. This is a thing. If we manage to have a semi-normal conversation in our initial interaction, I’ve just been dropping my number ’cause I don’t want to hang around on this buggy Hinge app forever. Turns out there is a moment when the guy can ask for the girl’s number? Which begs the question that I asked in my Boy 1 post… how much digital-before-human interaction is there? Why are we prolonging the amount of time on Hinge? And then we have to deal with texting? Or is all the texting happening on Hinge and then once the number drops you move straight to arranging the date?

So far, it’s just been me dropping my number casually after a day or two. And if the initial conversation is riveting, I’ll drop it at the end of that convo. The only exception is one guy who actually pulled a me and did what I did. He just dropped his number to me casually at the end of a great first interaction on Hinge. He and I haven’t met yet. I’ll let you know how that goes, too.

So, Boy 2, you were traveling for work ’cause you’re basically in management, and I had bronchitis, so scheduling was all kinds of weird, but you were very good at sort of checking in without excessive texting banter. This week, I’m actually performing a show I wrote that is largely autobiographical. And graphic. Sort of Jenny Slate in Obvious Child and/or Mike Birbiglia style. So I mentioned offhand that I could invite you to that if that wasn’t weird, and you said you didn’t think that was weird. Also, after the (wildly inefficient) week and a half of overly involved texting from (the very misleading) Boy 1 pre-actual-meeting, I was eager to clap eyes ASAP and nip things in the bud if needed.

You came to my graphic autobiographical show.

You said hi to me before, and you were cute. You actually looked like your picture. Thank you.

You waited afterwards while I dealt with my people. You were super gracious about the whole thing, and you loved it, you said. I believed you.

And then we started walking uptown. And you said something very charming. You said, “Well, we’re like on the fifth date now that I’ve seen your show. And by the way, you can ask me anything!”

You carried one of my bags, and we walked all the way from the village up to upper Manhattan. It was pretty wonderful. We stopped for a pee break at one point, and then when we got uptown, we walked into an Eastern European bakery and bought rugelach. So Jew-y. I know. I know. I pulled out my wallet, and you said this was on you though I offered again to “contribute to the cause.” That’s always my line 🙂

You seem pretty date/Hinge savvy. So you were also a fun person to have some meta-Hinge conversations with. I mentioned that I wish there were a button you could push when you first see a person that says either “Yes, pheromones are present” or “Nope, sorry, you’re beautiful, but not for me.” I happen to think that if we’re working with this kind of algorithmic digital stuff, we should get as practical as possible, and chemistry is instant. You countered that there should also be a feedback button about whether or not the profile actually reflects what the person looks like. That would be brilliant. You get to click a button saying: “Yes, s/he looks like this!” or “Nope, not even remotely close!” You commiserated with me about Boy 1 and the awkwardness of inviting someone over to watch something without a specific viewing suggestion… you told me about a date who chose to watch Dallas Buyer’s Club.

But enough meta-Hinging. You also told me about the first time you had sex and the bits you love about your job and your two brothers and a small funny genetic defect you have. Good stuff, Boy 2, good stuff. You mentioned that you’re not a fan of Harry Potter and was that a dealbreaker for me? I was like, nope. Apparently I had sent a text asking if you were on a “muggle schedule” and that made you wonder. I don’t know… I think it’s a funny line? Calling a 9-5 a muggle schedule? It isn’t meant to belie a deep dealbreaking obsession with Harry Potter. ‘Cause I’m not… like I really genuinely wish I could just date people in the AM hours. It would make my life so much easier. And you did give me a little shit about my educational background… and then I said, oh, do you not like intelligent women? So, you know… I guess two can play that game?

We finished our rugelach on a bench, and you asked me about my dietary restrictions… are you thinking of asking me to dinner? And we were near where I lived by then, so you walked me home. You mentioned you’d like to see me again. I also wore the same outfit for the show as I did for our walk, and you asked me what was I going to wear for my next performance. And I said, oh, yes, this is my… and you finished the sentence… “date outfit?” And I said, yep, my director liked it so much I didn’t change for the performance. That made you smile.

Boy 2, I want to thank you.

  1. You texted me every 24 hours or so, but it was basic and simple so we hadn’t built a strange digital relationship before meeting.
  2. You met me on my turf, graciously and kindly. You waited for me to deal with my audience, and then you literally walked almost the entire length of Manhattan with me. I mean… way to just play by ear.
  3. You can hold a conversation. We talked the entire time. At one point when we were debating the do-we-sit-down-at-a-bar question, you said, “Well, what I don’t want to do is sit across from each other and hold an interview.” I salute you, Boy 2.
  4. You’re deeply sweet and cool. I feel like you are an expert at Dates 1-8. I am curious about how you are beyond that? And I wonder if you’re just a very sweet dater? Like I’m not sure you’ll contact me? But I’ve learned now that I’m bad at predicting this (see: UPDATE on Boy 1).
  5. You paid for my rugelach. You didn’t have to. I appreciated it though. It felt like a sweet gesture. And you didn’t make a physical move either which felt respectful.

Boy 2, I would go on another date with you.

UPDATE: You have texted me. You want to see me before you leave for the weekend. Date 2 has been arranged.